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Revoke Luther excommunication call

Published: March 25, 2009

LutherInternational expert on church unity, Rev Günther Gassmann, a German Lutheran theologian, has urged the Catholic Church to declare officially that its excommunication of Martin Luther no longer applies.

Such a statement, "in these ecumenically less exciting times ... would be a remarkable step and a sign of hope and encouragement," said Rev Günther Gassmann, who was director of the World Council of Churches' Faith and Order Commission from 1984 to 1995, according to an Ekklesia report.

Luther trained as a Catholic monk, but was excommunicated by the Catholic Church in 1521 after refusing to retract teachings the Church judged to be heretical.

In a March 19 lecture in Rome, Gassmann said that a joint Lutheran-Catholic statement published in 1983 to mark the 500th anniversary of Luther's birth had sought to elaborate a common position on the work and legacy of the reformer.

"Luther, a major symbol and personification during 400 years of the past Catholic-Lutheran conflict and division, is now seen as a common teacher," Gassmann noted, at the Centro Pro Unione, an ecumenical research centre in the Italian capital.

He urged the Catholic Church to receive officially, "this changed evaluation of Martin Luther."

In 2008, the Vatican's top official for Christian unity, Cardinal Walter Kasper, encouraged Catholics to read Luther's hymns, which he declared were "full of spiritual power", and his commentaries on the Bible.

"One will then discover a Luther who is full of the power of faith, whom one cannot simply make Catholic, whom we find provoking and even alien in many respects, but from whom even Catholics can learn," said Kasper, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity since 2001.

Gassmann presented an overview of the results of Catholic-Lutheran dialogue from 1965 to 2005. He praised the 1999 signing by the Catholic Church and the Lutheran World Federation of a Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification as a "unique" event.

This represented, he said, "an agreement concerning the most fundamental theological difference between Catholics and Lutherans at the time of the Reformation and ever since."

It was the first, and so far only, time that the Catholic Church and one of its dialogue partners have officially confirmed the results of a bilateral dialogue, Gassmann added.

Gassmann noted that Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, had been involved in the latter stage of talks that led to the signing of the declaration.

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Catholic Church called on to revoke Luther's excommunication (Ekklesia)

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Recent Comments

  1. Luther was a good Catholic, until the Monarchic Church decided to exclude him, bacause he was too big a threat to their Power and Prestige...

    Sounds familiar?... its not unusual for the Catholic Hierarchy.

  2. A new theological assessment of Martin Luther would be welcome. But I was under the impression that excommunications no longer apply once the person has died.

  3. I,for one would rejoice if the Cathoilc Church revoked Luther's excommunication. Now is the time to do so.

  4. Luther was a heretical apostate priest and was excommunicated 'fair & square'. His heresies led to the ultimate shattering of Christian Unity (in direct opposition to the Will of Christ) which still infects the world four hundred years later. There is no valid reason to even consider the lifting of the legitimate excommunication.

  5. Tell him he's dreaming.

    Considering Mr.Luther vehemently opposed just about any Catholic doctrine one could name, the seven sacraments, the True Presence in the Blessed Sacrament etc, it would be most inappropriate to lift the excommunication. Luther clearly placed himself outside the Catholic Church.

  6. I wonder if all those who would like to see the excommunication lifted from Luther were equally happy to see the excommunications lifted from the four SSPX bishops recently?
    Now Luther was a true anti -semite whereas Williamson appears to be a lightweight by comparison.

  7. Invictus Maneo is quite wrong when he says Luther did not believe in the Real Presence. In fact, he did but chose not to explain it in philosophical terms. What he would not agree with was the notion of the Eucharistic Sacrifice.

  8. Ronk=Wrong

    Mate,

    Learn something about Luther before saying stuff like what you've posted here, please. He was not a good Catholic, he was a heretic.

    Had he only threatened power and prestige, he may have ended up like Saint Francis. He was right to denounce the abuse of indulgences in the church, but to say that we were predestined to either Heaven or Hell...Well, what do you think of that?

  9. Oh, and Luther also published some viciously anti-semitic material that made that holocaust denier of a bishop seem like an angel. Yeah, a perfect addition to our church, ronk=wrong.

    Seriously, do some reading. Don't just believe the hearsay of church haters!

    God Bless!

  10. I think the response really is: "thank you so much for your opinion, it has been noted".

    Even if the PERSONAL excommunication against the former Augustinian friar was lifted (perhaps because he is now dead and will have received his eternal and just reward, in which ever direction that might be), his HERESIES will still be condemned, unless someone wants to propose undoing the binding teachings of the Rcumenical Council of Trent.

  11. The article says that

    "... This represented, he said, "an agreement concerning the most fundamental theological difference between Catholics and Lutherans at the time of the Reformation and ever since.""

    Surely the most fundamental theological difference between Catholics and Lutherans is over authority vs. private judgment?

    Fr. Kilgannon says that

    "A new theological assessment of Martin Luther would be welcome."

    Why, Father?????

    Reginaldvs Cantvar

  12. The question we should be asking is...

    "If Luther were alive today, and if the Catholic Church were to lift the excommunication...would Luther walk back into the Church?"

    My answer would be...probably no.

    By simply looking at the attitudes of many so-called "Catholics" and myriads of anti-Catholic Christians (who are the legacy of Luther), who would rather see the Church burn to the ground...I'd highly doubt lifting the excommunication on Luther would do any good towards anything.

    If anything, rather than commending the Church for its good-willed action, such anti-Catholic Catholics and Christians will more than likely say the same old spiteful things like: "About time!! It only took 500 years!!"

    The Church simply cannot win (in the sense of pleasing people or winning popularity contest) against such spiteful hatred...

  13. A pointless exercise as the man ex-communicated himself.

    If he wanted to be Catholic when he was alive, he would have gone to the effort to come back into the Church.

    Instead he didn't.

    Lifting the ex-communication would serve no usual purpose.

    Let the man's actions speak for themselves.

    Let those that come to the truth become Catholic.

  14. Luther excommunicated himself with his heresies. He renounced 5 of the 7 sacraments - really 6 since he denied transubstantiation.
    the Pope does not have the authority to unexcommunicate him.

  15. As I write this comment, I look up from my desk across to my bookshelves and see 50 volumes of Luther's Works as well as about 40 other books about Luther and his theology. Cardinal Kasper is correct: there is much that can profit a Catholic in Luther's writings (eg - "I sit here drinking beer with my friend Melanchthon, meanwhile God continues to redeem the world!). No one could argue with that. Nevertheless, on the two central ideas that formed everything he did and said - "Sola Scriptura" (I'll give $1,000,000 to anyone who can show me where the Bible actually says that.) and "Iustitia Dei" - justification by Faith alone - Luther erred. Lift the excommunication by all means - and leave his salvation to God alone - but to suggest what Luther said was completely in conformity with Catholic doctrine is simplistic and avoiding facts. By the way, Luther died a disappointed man. Having 'liberated' the people from the 'tyranny' of the Church, he was amazed that the rank and file just couldn't give a damn - and life continued on as usual. No great spiritual revival - people were no better and no worse. His dying words were -"We are poor sods." And that's true, too. And profitable for any Catholic. (Redeemed sods.)

  16. Luther's horrible legacy to the world is how to become your own pope, which is the reason why many will not submit to any authority other than their own....I put the disunity of Christendom squarely at his feet.

  17. Decanus Nullius, I stand corrected. Thank you. Perhaps it would be more correct to say that he rejected the Catholic definition of transubstantiation.

  18. How about this....in the spirit of ecumenism...why doesn't the Lutheran Christian Community recant and repent? They would be welcomed back to Christ's One Holy and Apostolic Church.

  19. If the excommunication was lifted, what would be the message to today's heretics? That it is a free for all, any Catholic can claim or deny anything, and remain a "Catholic in good standing"! We are pretty close to this already. The lifting of Luther's excommunication would be the final blow to the Church.

    Why don't the Lutherans come back to the fold first, if they want to improve relations??

  20. Why?

    Why should the Church 'revoke' the excommunication of Martin Luther? He was not a fringe catholic but he willfuly parted from the Church, he did not manifest any real intent to remain catholic -maybe for humane reasons, the fear of some form of hard penance, being shut in a monastery for his remaining days, etc...the loss of the political clout he had gained with some of the german princes backing him as much as his stuborn intellectual pride/it's always difficult to see how far we've stranded ourselves in reasoning past a certain point of self indulging 'doubt' parading as 'honesty'-. Why not propose to the Lutheran Church (which one for a start?) to accept the 'whole' of Catholic Magisterium so as to show some 'ecumenically exciting times', and then ask again humbly for the lifiting of such excommunication?
    Why...not?

  21. What I glean from Luther's writings is that he was mentally ill. What sort of oddball imagines himself to be in a perpetual, cosmic battle with the devil? Weirdo. I have no use for him.

  22. Simply stated by 'Diane:' the legacy of Luther is exactly how to become your own pope: the beginnings of all the modern rebellions that have cursed our world ever since.

    Yes, many, I would say most, will not submit to any authority today. With barely a trace of real humility in all of society today, save for a few true Franciscans. We are moving ever closer to anarchy.

    It was correctly stated that Luther excommunicated himself. Rather than 'sitting and drinking beer with his friend,' he would have better been on his knees before the Blessed Sacrament, pleading for light from the Holy Ghost, commending himself to the Mother of God, whose intercession NEVER fails!

    All that remains in the pub in the morning are stale smells and empty glasses, while in the dwellings of those pure souls who humbly invoke aid from the Lord, one finds peace, joy, light, true charity, strength and hope, true enlightenment of the Holy Ghost. Guess Luther liked his ale better than his God.

  23. Rev. Gassmann as so many other have an incorrect appreciation about an excommunication. The church pronounces the latter publicly only after the fact. I am very much for retracting the excommunication of Luther, but first he has to renounce his heresies.

  24. His hymns are full of power, but that's beside the point. When he rejected Church teaching as heretical, he introduced the seed of division in the Church that exists to this day. Are his teachings now rehabilitated and aligned with Church teaching? That would seem to be the beginning of Church reunification, not glossing over it.

  25. Its a ludicrous suggestion. Regardless of cooled feelings on the matter, this is the man who is singularly responsible for the splintering of Christendom. His excommunication could never be revoked because of the irreparable harm he has done to the unity of the Church. Moreover, he never recanted of his heretical positions, nor has the sect he founded ever renounced them. They remain a distinct theological proposition from orthodox Catholicism; absolute unity is impossible because it is not being sought. At best the Church can only offer what it already has given freely, what some have ignorantly interpreted as gestures for absolute reconciliation - an ecumenical appreciation for the honest expression of faith and devotion exhibited by Luther and Lutherans. That is all.

  26. Surely you jest!!!! Laughable article! Maybe the Church could remove the sanctions on the devil also? Heresy is heresy, and unless repented of, results in excommunication and the depths of hell. Too late to change all that, I fear!

  27. There are many of Luther's teaching that go against the Catholic doctrine including:

    •The Bible is the only source of faith; it contains the plenary inspiration of God; its reading is invested with a quasi-sacramental character.
    •Human nature has been totally corrupted by original sin, and man, accordingly, is deprived of free will. Whatever he does, be it good or bad, is not his own work, but God's.
    •Faith alone can work justification, and man is saved by confidently believing that God will pardon him. This faith not only includes a full pardon of sin, but also an unconditional release from its penalties.
    •The hierarchy and priesthood are not Divinely instituted or necessary, and ceremonial or exterior worship is not essential or useful. Ecclesiastical vestments, pilgrimages, mortifications, monastic vows, prayers for the dead, intercession of saints, avail the soul nothing.
    •All sacraments, with the exception of baptism, Holy Eucharist, and penance, are rejected, but their absence may be supplied by faith.
    •The priesthood is universal; every Christian may assume it. A body of specially trained and ordained men to dispense the mysteries of God is needless and a usurpation.
    •There is no visible Church or one specially established by God whereby men may work out their salvation.

    Taken from http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09438b.htm.

    Anyone beleiving one of these would make them a heretic.

  28. Utter nonsense. Luther denied the authenticity of five of the seven sacraments. He openly and crudely advocated the persecution and annihilation of the Jews and Hitler took his advice in toto. Many people believe Hitler is burning in Hell. I feel Luther is right there with him. A frank psychological analysis of Luther's morbid feelings of unworthiness can only conclude that as a monk he had an embarrassing habit of sexual fantasies and self-abuse. I would rather see England's Henry VIII rehabilitated. That at least would have the signal benefit of bringing the Anglicans closer to us.

  29. Lift the righteous penalty of excommunication from the man who singlehandedly shattered the unity Christ asked for? NEVER.

  30. The German Lutheran "theologian" is full of it!. Both he and his antihero are/were heretics. Luther died unrepentant.

  31. Luther was a sinner who broke apart from The Catholic Church and took his nun-wife, whatever, down the toilet with him. He is NOT to be revered for going against Christ's teaching - no can can lift any excommunication now, anyway - too late. Jesus has judged him. You cannot sanitize error with false proclamations in the name of erroneous ecumenism. Jesus did not die so that His people could do their own thing; He died and rose so that all who would follow Him would have eternal life with Him in Heaven. But Luther did not follow; he separated himself and is responsible for the countless lives he led astray. Black is not gray.

  32. Recent repair work was done to Luther´s tomb. And they found him facing down! Is that a sign from Heaven or was he buried alive? I think he was heading to the underworld.

  33. Now this is the true meaning of "false ecumenism".

  34. Really? Lift the excommunication. Here are Luther's own words!!!
    'Whenever the devil vexes you,' wrote Luther, 'immediately seek the company of men, or drink more deeply, or make jokes or sport, and behave more cheerfully. From time to time one must drink more deeply, joke or commit stupidities, and commit some sin out of hatred and contempt for the devil, in order that we may not give him any room and have qualms of conscience over the smallest matters, for otherwise we shall be conquered if we are too anxious not to sin. Therefore, if the devil says, "don't drink," I shall answer, "Precisely for this very reason I shall drink more deeply, speak with less restraint, carouse the more often, to mock and vex the devil who has set about trying to vex and mock me." Oh, if I could only designate some quite remarkable sin, to mock the devil, so that he should learn that I recognise no sin, and am conscious of no sin, we whom the devil so threatens and vexes must strike out of our eyes and understanding the whole ten commandments.
    His own words people!!!!
    Kimbely

  35. Err,

    Predestination was Calvin's idea, not Luther's, sorry. Thanks to the other contributors who have given me a lot more knowledge than I thought I had.

    I have taken my own advice, and have started doing some more reading. Ronk=wrong, sorry for being such an arrogant idiot.

  36. I think that those who call for the lifting of the excommunication from Martin Luther are perhaps psychologically projecting, either consciously or subconsciously, their own desires to have dissent and even heresy legitimised within the Church. Many dissenters today want to reject openly many Catholic teachings and repalce them with their own ideas and false beliefs. Removing the excommunication from Luther would be to allow private interpretation to rule the roost. Making ourselves our own little egotistical gods- narcissistic and proud. No thanks. Let the excommunication remain upon Luther as he rejected all entreaties to back down.

  37. Firstly moderator - it's past time you did something about what is a personal attack (on Ronk) inherent in the non de plume "Rond = Wrong".

    Not only is it un-necessary uncharitable and un-intelligent, the writer invariably contradicts himself and shows clear bias.

    In this case, maintaining Luther was a good Catholic is by definition illogical... indeed might one say, "Luther = wrong" as by definition again he was.

    Worse unfortunately is the damage that Luther's egotistical heresy inflicted on centuries of Christian confusion. The Catholic church is duty bound to expose such false ideology as it is duty bound to teach only the divinely revealed and obviously unique Truth.

  38. For all the fiery adherents to the “one true faith”, two caveats come to mind:

    “Tribalism has no place in this discussion. As John Paul II reminded Catholics in his 1990 encyclical Redemptoris Missio, being a Catholic is not reason for proprietorial pride but for profound gratitude for a grace received, all undeserved on our part. Moreover, a Catholic who does not earnestly want to recognize and rejoice in the gifts of grace to be found in other Christian communities will almost certainly be more hindrance than help in this discussion.” the late Fr. Richard John Neuhaus (editor of First Things)

    “I came for sinners, not the righteous [read self-righteous],” said Jesus.

  39. My dear friends, why are we fighting against ourselves among christians? I personally feel that this is one of the main cause that Christanity is not growing. Let's try to forget the past and heal ourselves with blood of Christ. Be One, that is what Jesus wants from us.

  40. I find it interesting that the larger Lutheran synods seeking ecumenism with Rome are the same ones that ordain women, ordain gays, marry same sex couples, are not against-if not actively promote- abortion, and don't believe that Scripture is true. The conservative synods of Luthernism have more in common with Rome than with liberal Lutheran church bodies. Concerning Luther, Zwingli, Calvin and the myriad of other reformers, let them go. They are long dead and cannot join any current congregation, Roman or otherwise. Their fate is only in God's hands now.

  41. To lift his excommunication, when he has not (to our knowledge) changed his view on the abuse of papal indulgences, is impossible. It would be an admission of error: and the Pope is infallible.

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