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1. As if they genuinely care; they feel they have power, control, influence and financial wealth... it's just time they can't buy.

   Posted By: TJ Lawson

2. Why would the SSPX not ordain Priests?
   
   They will be welcomed back after "small time on the bench."
   
   They have only been "warned off: to appease those slightly left of extreme fundamentalism.

   Posted By: Chris

3. Despite our Holy Father leaning over backwards to help these people come back into full communion with the Church, they are arrogantly determined to do their own thing regardless. Not kosher.

   Posted By: Ro Ro

4. Bishop Muller of Regensburg seems hell bent in thwarting the SSPX from growing any further. This business of the negotiations with Rome is really a sop. After all, Our Lord did not found his Church in such a way that transactions between His vicar and the sheep would be conceivable.This holds true both when the vicar follows the voice of the Master and when he follows the paths of modernism. The canonical structure is here irrelevant.The Church is an unique organisation because She is the only means of our salvation. She is presently in a state of grave crisis and many new and holy priests are needed. I am happy that the SSPX will go ahead with the ordinations as planned later this month. Deus dabit his quoque finem.

   Posted By: John Harmsen

5. Juridically Rome is of course right however, the Pharisees of old were also juridical for not always the best of reasons.
   
   Practically and morally I think the ordinations should be allowed to proceed. The liberal and modernists should get over their embarrassment that the 'times they are a changin' ' and that the deliberate ambiguity of Vatican II documents is coming to an end along with all the secular appeasing agendas.
   
   Deo Gratias !

   Posted By: Michael Webb

6. John and Michael, you fail to understand that this mob will NEVER gain influence over the church and as far as I am concerned I would issue the excommunication again. Clearly they don't see the Pope as the head of the church.... Hello? Sounds like reformation gone retarded to me! You and your "society" are no better than Anglicans and Lutherans. If you belong to the church then you obey the pope. Don't be fooled people!! These people have been caught red handed, they don't like Papal Authority- they want their own church!! Get rid of them and be done with it!! And I am a church going young Catholic, I am not a "modernist"
   
   I love my church and I have faith in Mass AS IT IS, why change a good thing?? You former Catholics never got used to losing your power and influence over the rest of us. Go back and live in the 15th century! Live in your little bubble.

   Posted By: Mr Jebus

7. Mr. Jebus, you make me laugh. You Novus Ordo Catholics go warm and fuzzy at the mere mention of ecumenism and Vatican II. We must all produce our tamborines, hold hands and hum "kumbaya" with Christians and non-Christians alike. All that is important is that we luv each other....unless you are one of those horrible SSPXers. You lot can take you Latin Mass and get back to the 15th century where you belong! There's your Christian charity going at full blast.
   
   Change a good thing? I think not. The N.O. was fabricated by an outed Freemason (Archbishop Annibale Bugnini) with the aid of 6 Protestant ministers, and is demonstrably similar to the Anglican Service.
   
   When compared to the Latin Mass, it clearly diminishes acknowledgement and respect for the True Presence. How ironic that you should accuse the SSPX of being Protestant!
   
   Since the introduction of the N.O., church attendance has plummeted, vocations have followed close behind, and Holy Mother Church is beset with scandalous and immoral clergy. Thank God His Holiness is starting to turn things around.
   
   I too am a young Catholic with a young family. We shall continue to attend the Mass of All Time in our bubble with the SSPX, and pray most fervently for Pope Benedict XVI, head of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
   
   

   Posted By: Invictus Maneo

8. The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ "Peter Thou art the Rock and on this Rock I shall build my church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it" "whatsover you bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven - whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven" "Feed my lamb Feed my sheep" etc etc.
   
   If we don't listen to the visible Vicar of the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church that Christ Jesus founded and let every member of the Clergy have his own way we could end up in a mess like the Anglican Church has fallen into today.

   Posted By: Anne Sheena

9. Crikey,
   
   There's a lot of hot words being thrown around here, aren't there? I am surprised that otherwise intelligent Catholics who are supporting the idea of disobeying legitimate and well-considered orders from the Holy Father.
   
   Like Mr. Jebus, I guess I'm also happy to be called a "Novus Ordo Catholic". This doesn't mean that I going to be dancing around with a tamborine come offertory time though, Invictus. Furthermore, changes to the liturgy, along with inane lyrics to "hymns" are like fingernails down a blackboard to me. I grant you that the mass suffers great abuse, but it is also celebrated in great reverence.
   
   All that said, I believe that a more direct translation of the liturgy would be beneficial, and there are plenty of priests who would find a proper religious education quite illuminating. I'm happy to let the Pope decide on whether people should be ordained into that priesthood though and choose whether or not the liturgy should be altered. Why aren't more of you?

   Posted By: Paul Keen

10. Invictus Maneo your group still is going to ordain priests without Vatican approval. That proves you do not exist within the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. SSPX is going against the rule of the Pontiff. If you do not exist within the rules, then you are outside of communion with Rome. Your group is in the same boat as Fr Kennedy and his mob.
    
    Don't be mistaken, SSPX is challenging the authority of Rome by ordaining these priests, just as they did when they consecrated the Anti Semite bishop.
    
    You're so lofty in the delusion of your own righteousness that you cannot see this. I will keep you in my prayers. I will pray that the SSPX will come back to Rome.

    Posted By: Mr Jebus

11. Mr Jebus, I would point out that you rather self righteously invited me, and others of my persuasion to get back to the 15th century. Clearly, anyone with an attachment to traditional devotions is not welcome in the “inclusive” post-Vatican II Church.
    
    “The Vatican” is not “The Pope.” Whoever “the Vatican” is, you can be sure it will be a faceless bureaucrat with an axe to grind and ready access to the media. The only complaints are from the German bishops, who most certainly DO have an axe to grind. The Pope hasn’t said anything.
    
    It is clear that His Holiness is satisfied with the status quo for the moment, otherwise there was no point in lifting the excommunications. The details are to be discussed in the upcoming talks.
    
    Thankyou for the prayers. If more people do more praying, I’m sure that this situation will get itself sorted out. I shall do the same from my end.

    Posted By: Invictus Maneo

12. The actions of St. Athanasius during the Arian Heresy should be a good example for times of crisis in the church. He too was excommunicated, but it was Pope Liberius who ended up censured.

    Posted By: Invictus Maneo

13. In my humble opinion ‘Bishop’ Bernard Fellay is the Bernard Madoff of the spiritual world, and, the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) is the Ponsi investment scheme that Madoff concocted.
    
    Any person (or family) who have invested spiritually in the SSPX will loose everything.
    
    The mature fruit of the SSPX is bitter for many poor souls.
    
    Father of 8, who attend the Ordinary form of Mass in all its beauty, and, occasionally the Extra Ordinary form, also, in all its beauty, but, within a licit and trustworthy corporation.
    
    “Kind words loose all their power if they are no true” (Miss O’Connor).
    
    EHS
    

    Posted By: EHS

14. The Bishops ordained by Bishop Marcel Lefebvre are valid bishops capable of ordaining others, shown by the Motu Proprio. Clearly there is a need for Bishops and Priests, churches are closing everywhere we look. The SSPX is loyal to the Pope and the Catholic Church no matter what kind of anti-traditionalist propoganda is published. The SSPX is merely trying to continue the practice of the Mass that our Heavenly Father began, following Roman Catholic Tradition.

    Posted By: Molly B.

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