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1. Let us hope and pray that this meeting is a first and real step towards reconciliation. The re-admission of the SSPX will only strenghten the Church, especially in Europe. It will also be a body blow to the destructive and dying leftist, liberal, egalitarian, dissenting, modernist, progressive, new age, feminist, contracepting, aborting, gay/lesbian agenda.

   Posted By: Michael Bernard

2. WHAT IN God's name is going on with SPPX. Is it just another way of Vatican reactionaries to denigrate Vat II by sychophantic cow-towing to the SPPX
   Its pathetic bearing in mind the real problems confronting our church. G Ripon

   Posted By: George Ripon

3. Hi Michael, just a word from a leftist, liberal, egalitarian, dissenting, modernist, progressive, new age, feminist Catholic (ie me)
   There is no way that the SSPX group will be re-admitted to the Catholic fold since the Vatican has stipulated that an essential pre-condition will be the full acceptance of the Vat II documents: viz on ecumenism, liturgical reform, collegiality, on the role of the laity, biblical exegesis etc.
   From my reading, there is no way that SSPX will reconcile themselves to this programme.
   So your long, hoped-for body blow against the "dying leftist, liberal, egalitarian, dissenting, modernist, progressive, new age, feminist, contracepting, aborting, gay/lesbian agenda" is not going to happen.

   Posted By: Elias Nasser

4. George,
   Somehow I think that the SSPX is more likely to be the solution to The Church's problems, more likely that is than you spirit of Vat II types who continue to cling to the council and its "achievements".
   George, (and TJ if you are lurking) what are the Achievements of Vat II as you see it?
   The declining congregations?
   The huge fraction of the church into liberal, conservative and traditional factions?
   The rise in "Catholics" who support the culture of death (contraception, abortion and euthanasia)?
   The growing disobedience toward priests, bishops and the pope (by the laity and priests, bishops and cardinals)?
   Times like these, one must look to scripture "By their fruits you shall know them." Indeed! Perhaps we need a dramatic trimming of the rotten fruit and perhaps, just perhaps the Society is the group to do it!
   Kudos to Michael Bernard you have the idea! Laudetur Iesus Christus
   Viva Papa Bene XVI!

   Posted By: Matthew Alexander

5. "the real problems confronting out Church ....."
   
   Which are?

   Posted By: alforo

6. Matthew, So the Holy Spirit was not breathing new life into the RC Church via the Second Vatican Council and giving it a good pruning?
   I wonder if you sin against the Holy Spirit. I wonder if you are not one of those disobedient types that you seem to abhor in rejecting the Council.
   What are some achievements? Are you blind? How about liturgical renewal and the restoration of the Hebrew Scriptures at the Eucharist? How about the recognition of non-RC Christians as our brothers and sisters (ouch.....that really hurts some RC's who want to return to the fantasy land that only Catholics are going to heaven). There's a host of other achievements surely.
   How do you know that the shrinking congregations would not have been greater under the old moribund system RCs have laboured under.

   Posted By: Francis

7. Francis, ever since Vatican II many Catholics have been confused about what Vatican II teaches.
   Many so called "left-wingers" in the Catholic Church, (think) Vatican II allowed women priests and contraception and the Abuse of the Liturgy.
   Vatican II didn't allowed those things. Now I do agree with the SSPX that Vatican II needs to be cleared up and to better understand the council.
   

   Posted By: Mark

8. While not a member of SPPX, I can understand their reaction to the some (many) of the errors in Vatican II. You, self-described liberal, feminist, etc. catholics-in-name-only fail to recognize how pathetically "protestantized" the litergy and the church overall was by Vat II... to the point of the Lutheran advisors to the council stating with glee that "we have finally accomplished what Luther set out originally to do".

   Posted By: Dr. Mark

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