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Irish theologians call for rethink on HIV/AIDS

Published: November 04, 2009

Father Enda McDonagh

 

Internationally known Irish moral theologians, Fr Enda McDonagh and Fr James Keenan, have criticised what they describe as the "unethical and unfounded" stances of the Church and political leaders that they say have failed the world in preventing the spread of HIV.

Addressing "those with the political, economic, moral and religious power," the priests said such people must undergo "a moral conversion of dearly held but now unfounded and unethical positions in regard to condoms, needle exchange and other means of (HIV) prevention", the Irish Times reports.

Fathers McDonagh and Keenan said in every 37 days some 300,000 people, equivalent to the loss of life in the Indian Ocean tsunami of December 2004, die in the world because of HIV pandemic.

And yet "the will to commit concomitant resources to prevent such loss of life simply does not exist," they said.

Fr McDonagh, former professor of moral theology at St Patrick's College Maynooth, and Fr Keenan, founder professor of theology at Boston College, made their comments in a pamphlet prepared for the Catholic Progressio group.

The pamphlet is titled Instability, Structural Violence and Vulnerability: A Christian Response to the HIV Epidemic.

They continued also that "corporate vulnerability to the pandemic will require the fundamental step of putting people - and suffering people above all - before profits. This would require the drug companies to forego their usual exorbitant profits."

They noted, that instead of supporting public health HIV preventative strategies such as condoms, needle exchange and preventive education, some leaders perceived that the better shields were those which kept the vulnerable and most-at-risk people away from the "general population" or those seen as protecting social mores and orthodoxy from contamination.

Such a strategy was "often backed by a deep moral judgmentalism," they said. Studies on the HIV pandemic had found "a church leadership which stands aloof, righteous, and judgmental."

They had also found that religious beliefs "strongly influence the way people think about HIV and AIDs." It was found, for instance, that "a significant percentage of those surveyed" believed "HIV was a punishment from God."

However, biblical tradition of Job, whose narrative contradicts the deep seated belief that we are the authors of our own troubles, apparently has no claim here," they concluded.

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 http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1102/1224257901697.html (Irish Times)

 

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Recent Comments

  1. I am pleased I worked for 10 years (1992--200) assisting in supporting people with HIV/AIDS and educating people at risk of spreading it. This involved a needle exchange, forming social groups etc. and social and financial support. I was supported by the local Catholic Community.

  2. May the Lord deliver us from theologians! HIV infection of others is one of the worst forms of violence. Violence in the human heart and society is a deeply rooted spiritual problem. Thus the ONLY remedy for it is the words of Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount. I think these theologians are missing the whole point that the Church is trying to preserve.

  3. In a word - BRAVO. The writings of these two erudite priests need to be very widely circulated.
    Those who are then moved to want to make some practical care response are invited, if they can, to help us in our various AIDS-care programs... even if we are the smallest AIDS-care charity in Australia...albeit cold-shouldered by the church.
    We invite CathNews readers to browse our website at www.aids.net.au
    With regards,
    Brian Haill.
    Founder/President,
    The Australian AIDS Fund Incorporated
    & parishioner St Francis Xavier Church,
    Frankston, Victoria.
    PS And good on you - Bill - for your contribution.

  4. HIV pandemic? A little hysterical, don't you think. I can't see people everywhere dropping dead from HIV/AIDS.

  5. Compassion at last!

  6. Nathan: If you lived in Africa, you would. One in 20 sub-Saharan Africans between the ages of 15 and 49 have HIV/AIDS. In South Africa, it's 18% and in Lesotho and Botswana, more than 23%.

  7. Do you honestly think that if the church okayed condoms etc. the AIDS epedimic would slowly ground to a halt?
    All the Church asked was for people to be faithful to their spouse. Is that hard to understand?
    What you sow,so shall you reap.

  8. Couldn't agree more! The lives of millions of people in the world have been held to ransom due to this antiquated and judgemental mind set. We live in the real world where people matter - not dogma. Proven fact that use of condoms and other hygienic and preventative mechanisms have saved millions of lives in the gay community and many women & children who have been innocently affected by HIV transfer. Wake up!

  9. Those theologians are a little out of date. In a paper published within the last year in the Journal Science, it was shown from studies in Africa that the main practice that reduced HIV rates was a reduced number of sexual partners. Condoms had no effect in reducing numbers alone.
    It always amazes me that condom promoters always blame the Church for not supporting their use. Why they think the Church's position would make a jot of difference when the reason for the the massive spread of HIV/AIDS is sexual promiscuity, a situation the Church teaches against, is beyond me. In other words the Church is ignored on sexual promiscuity so why would they accept advice on condoms?
    Lets face it, nobody really wants to wear a condom, they much prefer flesh on flesh.
    As for needle exchange, I think it is probably wise to support it.

  10. A very timely speakout about the HIV/AIDS issue which needs to be addressed with compassion, logic, & good old 'common sense' which, sadly, is often missing.
    We should all - pastors, theologians & laity - be giving serious thought on vital issues to answering the question: what would the response of Jesus be?

  11. Well done, Bill. And good on your efforts, Brian.
    I agree with Desmond about looking to the science.
    But the use of condoms relates to the complexities of human behaviour. So behavioral science also needs to be brought into the picture.
    Evidence is consistent....that condom use is related to the educational levels of both males & females.
    And it particularly relates to educational level of the male.
    Now, what is at a low level in places like Africa? And not only in Africa.
    In raising educational levels, it's setting the base for more a more likely use of condoms.
    Interestingly, this also shows up in matters such as teenage pregnancy. Holland, which has excellent relationship/sex education programs mandated in schools, has the lowest teenage pregnancy rate in the western world. And, interestingly, also a relatively high age of first full sexual experience.

  12. Thank you, C. I stand corrected. It sounds terrible and tragic. Perhaps then the emphasis should have been placed on Africa rather than the suggestion that it is a world-wide epidemic that can strike anyone.
    More to the point, where is the evidence that condoms and needle exchange are solutions to this problem? Would condoms be worn anyway? Surely in this case, cure is better than prevention. Would it not be better to emphasise finding a cure for HIV/AIDS rather than Fathers McDonagh and Keenan giving the Catholic Church's values a bash?

  13. HIV/AIDS is spread by promiscuity and abnormal sexual practices; for the Church to assist in this would be sinful as defined by the doctrine of cooperation in evil. Such as giving a drug addict syringes rather than helping them off the drug, or giving a teenager condoms rather than teaching virtues
    Obedience to the Magisterium is not one of these to Priests virtues, for every thousand Priests, there will be one who who thinks he knows more than 2000 years of theology and divine revelation.
    Uganda is a shining example of how abstinence has shattered the rates of HIV.
    The world is obsessed with sex and expects everyone to be acting accordingly; the Church is far wiser and knowledgeable than mainstream thought.

  14. It is interesting that Nathan Socci does not see a HIV pandemic. In 1980, there were 400 known cases of Aids; today there are some 40 million cases with many millions of deaths and every 37 days some 300000 die of the disease. It seems to me those 400 people should have been quarantined to prevent the spread until a prevention and cure was found.

  15. "A church leadership which stands aloof, righteous, and judgmental." Nairobi has 7,000 commercial sex workers every night. Kenya has many towns with CSWs. Many of them are poor girls looking for money. Prostitution has gone up in some towns in the present famine. The men who have sex with these women have sex with other women as well, including their own wives. Prostitution is a complex phenomenon that spreads HIV. What sense does preaching abstinence make to this group? A prostitute who insists on condoms avoids infection and will hopefully live to return to Christ, and she would have protected the lives of others as well. And then there is the rampant sex among schoolgirls in Kenya: 12,660 minors had sex with their teachers in 5 years! If no condom was used, these children exposed themselves to HIV. Add this to the widespread casual sex, infidelity and the vulnerable position of women (sex for a job, promotion, college grades, mobile phone credit, food, etc). Condoms, used correctly and consistently, save lives. And if it is true that we are all vulnerable to sin, using a condom to avoid an incurable infection makes great moral sense. And finally, why is HIV infection lower in the West than in Africa? Better sexual morality in the West? Hardly. It is safe sex. In Africa where the church has great influence, people reject condoms and die of Aids. The church will one day answer for this crime against humanity.

  16. Congratulations to the two Irish theologans who have let common sense into the moral field at last!
    When will our leaders admit that Paul V1's mistake was in condemning the pill against his committee,
    when, about that time it was offered to nuns in the Congo in danger of being raped .

  17. The Holy Spirit comes to help us in our weakness. Rather than lower the standard, let us pray as a Church, for the power of the Spirit to live to the highest standards of the gospel.
    In this era of Relativism and a 'Crisis of Truth' let us pray in this 'Year for Priests' that they remain faithful.

  18. Bravo, some forward thinking that embraces a scientific and ecclesiastical viewpoint. It is about time that humanity and spirituality linked together for the betterment of all. Still, many people look at sexual activity, but there is a difference in HIV rates between the rich and the poor who practice similar ‘risky’ behaviours. The point of this article is, I think, that until poverty and other circumstances can be addressed, let’s at least do the best we can, and offering harm reduction options, is a great start. ABCs can help, but there are many more letters in the alphabet and focusing on just 2 or 3 limits options for key populations. AIDS is different than HIV and offering solutions to quarantine people 30 years ago, is as regressive as one would expect, from hard core bible embracers. I commend the authors, and will share the word.

  19. "HIV/AIDS is spread by promiscuity and abnormal sexual practices;"
    I am sorry, Boanerges, there are hundreds of documented examples in Australia of people contracting HIV/Aids by medical and dental procedures.
    Even today, that is why many people are concerned about receiving multi dose Swine Flue Vaccine.

  20. With all due respect, Alex Reichel, I think these theologians are qute precisely trying to recall Church and Society to the words of Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount. Judgementalism has no place there.

  21. With due respect to Jane Seymour, I was presenting the only strategy for dealing with the pandemic of HIV and AIDS. There is no judgmentalism in this. I am speaking of the best scientific analysis of the problem. Pope Benedict is quite clearly right.

  22. Sorry, I just don't get it. HIV is spreading to pandemic proportions by these people rejecting condoms, as taught by the Catholic Church. Right? Then why aren't these same people following the other, more important teachings of the church? The ones about sins of the flesh, remaining faithful to your spouse, the ten commandments, avoiding adultery, overcoming your passions etc etc
    If the church has such great influence in Africa as it has been stated, why are most of the Church's teachings being ignored?
    To promote condoms is to promote promiscuity.

  23. Regarding condoms as limiting the spread of AIDS, it is evident from the relevant literature that up to 15% of instances of intercourse with condom use will fail to prevent pregnancy and also the spread of venereal diseases. I am part of a group of Australians presenting a human sexuality program in Catholic and State High Schools, yrs 7-10. We present age-appropriate information in a sensitive endeavour to help students consider their choices (to engage sexually and non-sexually with others of their own age), help them develop a decison tool, and consider a range of possible outcomes (positive and negative, of their choices.) We know the failure rate of condoms is high for a number of reasons. For these Bishops to think otherwise means they are ill-informed. The Pope's stand has been validated, and is the correct one, according to US investigators and clinicans working with HIV-affected patients.

  24. These two ageing “ecclesiastical cold war” warriors merely demonstrate how hopelessly out of touch they are with the realities of the 21st century.
    Relying on condoms to prevent AIDS has failed wherever it has been tried. The only countries which are beating AIDS down are those putting the Church’s teachings of chastity, monogamy and fidelity into practice. African statistics show that the higher the Catholic proportion of the population, the lower the AIDS rate.
    It is men such as these who are still blindly promoting condoms as “safe sex” who have blood on their hands.
    And I’m dumbfounded by their claim that Church leaders oppose “needle exchange and other means of (HIV) prevention”.

  25. Peter G: You said: "Relying on condoms to prevent aids has failed wherever it has been tried". And then you gave some ideological ramble about the only countries in which success has occurred are those which embrace church teaching on monogomy etc etc etc.
    Firstly: condoms were and are part of a much larger strategy of safe sex approaches. The neurotic obsession with condoms alone tells its own story.
    But seeing as you have made such sweeping statements, I would like to see the data which backs this up. Both that condom use has been a failure wherever tried and the widespread success of ideology.To make it easier for you we could use Australia as an example (although Medecins sans Frontieres and the UN have easily accessible websites). If you cannot provide such data let me know and I will provide you with website addresses and/or various bodies that do have this data which completely contradicts your ideologically based spray.

  26. Brian Haill: You say your organisation is cold shouldered by the Church.
    Considering your own stance regarding the Church, there is little wonder this is so.
    A page of the AIDS Fund website consists of criticism of the Catholic magisterium’s teachings on human sexuality. See here: http://www.aids.net.au/us-catholic-20080507.htm
    Another page of the AIDS Fund website is dedicated to criticising the Melbourne Archdiocese’s excellent 2002 ‘Directives for Christian Education in Sexuality’. The AIDS fund is particulary crtical of the Archdiocese’s directive that in Catholic schools there is NOT to be ‘instruction in the use of condoms and other contraceptive techniques, nor any graphic depiction and discussion of the intimate details of genital relationships’ .
    The Melbourne Archdiocese’s directives rightly state that ‘while hygiene concerning bodily fluids should be taught at an appropriately earlier age, the sexual transmission of disease must be handled with sensitivity and must use accurate medical information. It should be introduced with care only at the appropriate age and discussed in the context of the true meaning and purpose of sexuality’.
    For the AIDS Fund’s criticism of the Melbourne Archdiocese see here: http://www.aids.net.au/us-catholic-20080506.htm

  27. There are people who blame the church for the AIDS epidemic because the Church advises people not to use condoms. However, AIDS is mainly caused by people "sleeping around" with someone other than their spouse. If people ignore the church's advice on not sleeping around (and risk getting HIV), why would they bother listening to the church's "advice" on not using condoms.

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