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1. What breathless and starry eyed hero worship from the deacon.
   This is a papacy punctuated by remnant ideology and subsequent manipulations of the Gospel to bolster such a ghetto mentality; exclusion; opportunism; vilification; vicious persecution of those constructed as "liberal'(therefore hostile to the faith) and, instead, the ghoulish embrace of the ultra-right; the utter inability to engage with the diversity of the West; the crushing of thought leaving us with the ideological ramblings of Balthassar on the one hand and the fore-lock tugging and mindless rote of so much else; and his utter cowardice and lack of integrity in his failure to actually challenge the structures of evil which contribute so much to the actual relativism that engulfs the West, instead Quixotic-like rushing at abstractions of "relativism".
   What we have is a virtual catholicsm at best, talking to itself, disconnected to the deep anxieties of the West, seeking less intellectually, psychological, spiritual, emotional, challenges in other lands.
   It is well past time for us to consider deeply why the Church will soon evaporate in the West.

   Posted By: Mark

2. "Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus": Apparently the one thing that Anglicans have now proved to themselves.

   Posted By: Nathan Socci

3. And what positive contribution are you making, Mark?

   Posted By: Jimmy

4. Mark: You could not hold a candle to this great, kind, very wise and courageous man. Thank God he is our Pope.

   Posted By: Ro Ro

5. Mark: I've been trying to work out why your post was so hard to understand, and yet the article you were so cynical about was.
   You made no reference or call to Jesus whatsoever. Deacon Fournier did. He gets Christianity. You don't. I pray you will though!

   Posted By: Paul Keen

6. Good to have a view from someone who is able to piece together some of the initiatives to get a sense of the full vision and spirit of this movement. Many thanks to Dcn Keith.

   Posted By: Balanced

7. I suggest to you, Mark, that you set yourself the daily task of meditation on the parable of the Prodigal Son.
   Luke 15:11-32. How easily we fall for the delusion of self-autonomy, resenting authority and the need for obedience in order to survive.

   Posted By: Antiquus

8. I'd be happy to respond in detail to each of the non-sequiturs that have been offered in defense of the good deacon and his partisan view of Benedict, except that the problem with non-sequiturs is their lack of substance which then actually prevents actual engagement. So perhaps if some substance could permeate criticism rather than a "you are, you are" approach we could intelliegently discuss the issues you wish to defend.

   Posted By: Mark

9. Wow! Mark! You certainly have a problem with the Papacy. Maybe you should join another branch of so-called Christianity.There are quite a few who would welcome you! I wish you PEACE and a TRANQUIL SPIRIT.

   Posted By: M.M.

10. I too have been trying to work out what Mark is upset about. Whatever it is, it seems to be very serious.

    Posted By: Lance Eccles

11. Mark: Everything that you wish for has been done in liberal Protestant churches... and do you know what? Those communities are empty.

    Posted By: Tony de New York

12. Pope Benedict XVI’s statements and encyclicals consistently reflect an enhanced perception of God’s truth, way above the capacity of most people in the Church and the world in our time now. The Pope stays focussed on unequivocal and permanent truth, and does not make ambivalent statements to suit whatever any reader wants to believe. Various other Catholic Online articles also reflect this right judgement.
    In relation to the first reader comment in the last sentence, the Christian Church will not evaporate in the West. The authentic Church will remain whose constant priority is to implement what Christ has revealed, and to do and say what can be known of the mind of God. However the parts of the church that probably won’t remain, are those areas that are focussed on earth-bound temporary issues, and seeking worldly values and status, and for whom Christ is secondary or even subservient.

    Posted By: Julie Rose Keating

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