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1. Gotta love that Vatican II. Even satanically inspired voodoo is welcome. But if you want the Traditional Mass, you are out on your ear!
   
   

   Posted By: Invictus Maneo

2. "... Werner Jaegerhuber, a Haitian born composer of German extraction, selected elements of Haitian vodou, or voodoo, and blended them with music inspired by Gregorian chant to achieve an unprecedented coupling of two opposing faith traditions."
   Sickening. This is syncretism at its diabolical worst. What fellowship can there be between Christ and Belial?
   "Gotta love that Vatican II. Even satanically inspired voodoo is welcome. But if you want the Traditional Mass, you are out on your ear!"
   Insane, isn't it?
   Reginaldvs Cantvar

   Posted By: Cardinal Pole

3. Invictus Maneo: The Mass which used music that incorporated elements of voodoo music with Gregorian chant was held before Vatican II. The Mass was to commemorate the founding of Haiti in 1804, on the sesquicentennial anniversary. That's 150 years. So, the Mass was 150 years after 1804, which would be 1954.
   You're taking a cheap and misinformed crack at Vatican II.
   

   Posted By: Mikayla

4. Amen to what Invictus Maneo wrote. That's tolerance. Trust your bishop to govern with love.

   Posted By: Ben

5. NO this is not going to happen
   Traditional mass will always be here. The Vatican will not allow Satan's worshipers to enter into this Holy House of God! I am sorry and if they do, how dare they? I am a devout Catholic and I have never EVER seen anything so sick in my life!

   Posted By: Hannah

6. Invictus: The work was composed between 1947 and 1953. It was proposed for performance in the cathedral in 1954, but permission was withheld (for obvious reasons).

   Posted By: Lance Eccles

7. Some people seem to be under the impression that inclusion of a paper in the historical collection of the Vatican Library, is some sort of Church endorsement of its contents or even a recommendation that the musical score it is describing should be used as the basis for liturgies.
   The Times and Democrat does not say that Grenier's paper approves of the concept of incorporating voodoo in a Mass. Apparently his article is purely descriptive history. Apparently the library sees the value in having a record of a description of one of the weird things composers did in the 20th century.

   Posted By: Peter G

8. Looks like the syncretism and indifferentism of Assisi 1986 contniues....consecrate Russia?, oh that's so passe....

   Posted By: Chris Campbell

9. Now that would be something to hear!

   Posted By: Bt

10. Absolutely disgusting. But, sadly, not surprising. The thing I cannot understand, though, is how many Church officials can't understand why so many Catholics have left the Church in the last 40 years. Gee, maybe it's because of garbage like this!
    
    Stuff glorifying satanic worship welcomed in the Vatican library? Oh yes, we must be TOLERANT. But, like Invictus said, if you want the Traditional Latin Mass, then you must be suppressed and called an extremist. PATHETIC!

    Posted By: Phil

11. Sorry, but I needed to say something. Seems that some folks are not understanding what the Vatican Archives are all about.
    The Church is not 'tolerant', but rather open to let others know. Our Church is not liberal and Vatican II has nothing to do with this. There is so much in the archives that is historical. Everything there is not holy, but historical.
    I am very happy to see that at least now I can find out that a composer has done something so ungodly and uncanny and know his name when I see it!
    No one is advocating the use of such a phenomena in our liturgies.
    Hope this is more understandable now to some of you.

    Posted By: Teresa

12. Gotta love the missionary zeal. Assimilate, assimilate, assimilate the pagans the better to rob them blind while saving their souls in the "afterlife". It's the twenty-first century and the authors of the Taino's genocide in Haiti and the initiators of the slave trade haven't stopped trying to convert, convert by any means necessary. The trend is the indigenization of a dying monstrosity. Barthalemew De La Casas along with all the pompous false "keepers of our brothers" are still animated and beating their chest at who is "satan" and who is "civilized." Don't know any Vodouist satan responsible for more atrocity and monstrosities - slave trade, colonialism, ethnocide, World Wars, nuclear bombings, ethnic cleansing, than Christians adepts.
    

    Posted By: Ezili Danto

13. Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Jewish Holocaust, African genocides, Native American murders, India's colonization and murders of Hindu practitioners all in the name of Christianity.
    I guess the bible crusades going now in Haiti is not enough, our music is theirs too. They give us the bible, put us on our knees, ask us to close our eyes and pray. When we open our eyes, our families were murdered and our land was stolen. Now our music too.
    

    Posted By: AyidaWedo

14. EzliDanto and Ayida Wedo: The slave trade, colonialism, ethnocide, World Wars, nuclear bombing, the Jewish Holocaust, African genocides, Native American murders, India's colonization and murders of Hindu practitioners were caused by an absence of Christianity, not an excess of it as you have apparently been led to believe.
    And please don’t imply that no African pagan or Hindu ever committed atrocities. Need one mention the human-sacrifice cults, suppressed by those terrible Christians?

    Posted By: Peter G

15. It comes full circle. Vodun is the oldest religion in the world and the basis for most of the world's religions, including Christianity. So incorporating Vodun music into the Catholic mass is a natural. In my town, Haitian Catholics celebrate mass with the Haitian drums and it is a much more meaningful service that is evocative of their cultural traditions.

    Posted By: the zen haitian

16. Zen Haitian: You've got it the wrong way round. Catholicism was founded by our God and Saviour Jesus Christ based upon the foundation of Judaism which God had previously built.
    Voodooism was invented in the 17th century based on a blend of a garbled and partial understanding of some elements of Catholicism together with elements of West African animist superstitions.

    Posted By: Peter G

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