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1. Quite simply. a disgrace — and one that will further deepen the the distrust between the Vatican and most Irish people.
   I hope that Fr Flannery will not accept the instruction of the CDF and his Order's superior-general.
   I'm glad to see from one of the Irish papers that he is being supported by a fellow Redemptorist in Limerick.

   Posted By: conor bradley

2. Two-thirds of Irish priests do not think the ACP is worth joining, so I don't see how this matter is going to be a big issue throughout Ireland.
   The majority of Irish priests are not hung up on lobbying for the Catholic Church to be more protestant.

   Posted By: TC

3. TC: perhaps the 2/3 Irish priests are too sunk in apathy to bother, which is sad indeed.
   Nothing like shooting the messenger, is there?

   Posted By: JR, Sydney

4. '... contraception, the possibility of married priests in Ireland, and the ordination of women as priests.'
   They're not very original, are they? In my mind's eye, I see Fr Flannery in a tie-dye shirt and bell-bottomed trousers.

   Posted By: David Kennedy

5. David Kennedy: Don't restrict your mind's eye view to modern dated fashion; expand the vision to take in those boutique classics on the way back such as birettas, fiddle backs and lace albs.
   More to the point, another old idea which came into fashion during Vat II, the 'People of God'.
   Lumen Gentium affirmed that even the non-episcopal share in the great gift to the Church, the Sensus Fidelium. It's a strong indicator of the working of the Holy Spirit and to the authenticity or otherwise of the Church teaching.
   Let's hope that fashion is not discarded as old hat.

   Posted By: David Timbs

6. The ACP represents some 10-15% of the total number of ordained priests in Ireland which is around 5000.
   They claim that their program of reform is not radical in the pejorative sense and is true to the aims of Vatican 11.
   But there is nothing in the official documents or pronunciations which issued from that Great Council, which implicitly or explicitly supports their program i.e abolition of celibacy, ordination of women to the priesthood or abrogation of the ban on artificial birth-control.
   Fr Flannery, the founder of this body, has been allowed to air his views for a long time without sanction.
   One cannot claim now that he is a totally innocent victim of a Vatican investigation. The Church has been mandated to teach and admonish in the name of Her founder, Jesus Christ. This investigation could have been averted if Fr Flannery and the ACP had respected the essential doctrinal and communal unity that belonging to the Church of God demands of each of us.

   Posted By: Gerry McIvor

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