Make Text Larger Make Text Smaller Email this Article to a Friend Print this Article

Debate showed that Australians care about faith

Published: May 11, 2012

The Q & A live debate between evolutionary biologist, author and militant atheist, Professor Richard Dawkins, and Sydney’s Catholic Archbishop, Cardinal George Pell, attracted an audience of 863,000, its highest since the coverage of the 2010 Federal election; an indication that faith and God are still of great interest and challenge to Australians, writes Clare Condon SGS, in The Good Oil.

The next day media headlines included: “Dawkins and Pell battle it out in one hell of a debate" (Sydney Morning Herald), “Adam and Eve? That’s just mythology, says Pell" (The Australian), “Pell, Dawkins wage battle of belief" (The Age), “Heated debate between Cardinal Pell and Professor Dawkins" (CathNews).

When I read these headlines, I thought I must have watched and listened to a different program! Heat or battle I did not observe. I thought it was rather tame, with two disconnected arguments.

Neither argument met the other while discussing the profound topic of the mystery of God; one came from a purely scientific point of view and the other from a metaphysical or philosophical perspective. Neither of them expressed any interest or real understanding of the other’s discipline. Each came from a position of certainty so there was no meeting of minds.

In its headline, The Australian reported a level of surprise when the Cardinal described the Genesis accounts of Adam and Eve as sophisticated mythology, and it dismissed mythology as insignificant (as had Dawkins the night before).

Any well-educated Christian would be fully aware of the implications of this profound religious myth. All cultures have sophisticated myths which tell the story of their search for meaning in life. I was surprised that Dawkins, an avowed atheist and intellectual, knew so little of the body of religious knowledge that he was rejecting.

It became clear to me that science cannot explain ‘the why’ of human life and therefore its meaning and purpose. Science can and has improved our knowledge and understanding of the way the physical world and universe work and we should seek to constantly update ourselves with the findings of science.

FULL STORY Reflecting on Dawkins Vs Pell (The Good Oil)

.

 

 

Response to articles is welcome. Simply follow the prompts to post your comment. No posting of more than 250 words will be published. While critical comment on stories and issues is welcomed, postings that descend to personal attacks on or impugn the integrity of other commentators will be blocked. Please use your own name, or initials, eg John Brown, or JB, or JAB, or Johnny. You are also required to add your location - as in, Sunshine, Victoria. Please provide your email address in the line supplied, followed by your contact phone number. These are requested for identification purposes only and will not be published. If you have any problems, please email news@cathnews.com


 


Recent Comments

  1. I agree with Clare Condon completely. It seemed to me that Richard Dawkins and Cardinal Pell were so far apart in their belief that it was a pointless exercise. (Q & A tends to be a bit like that, though - too many opinions and no depth).
    However, I can recommend a discussion between Philip Adams and Fr Gerald O'Collins on Late Night Live recently - it had great worth.

  2. At last, someone who agrees with my understanding of that so called debate. It was a total non event,to my mind, but seeing all the reviews, I began to wonder if the problem was mine. Maybe not.

  3. Cardinal Pell had done his homework and Prof Dawkins couldn't handle it.
    Cardinal Pell remained calm and humourous throughout. I was proud of him.
    Admittedly 'Religion' did not really come into it. They were speaking on two different levels.

  4. Professor Dawkins and Cardinal Pell unwittingly bought into the God versus Science terms in which the 'debate' was set up and as such were predictable victims of it.
    The choice was crude, though perhaps understandable, given Dawkins' exaggerated scientism and the Cardinal's reputation for being an unbudging apologist for Christianity's claims.
    The inevitable flaw was that the program problematised the issue in such mutually exclusive terms that the only winners were the fundamentalists on both sides.

  5. I didn't see the debate, but can't agree with Sr Clare rather charitable comment that Prof. Dawkins knew so little about the faith he was rejecting.
    Not at all, in my book: he couldn't be that ignorant!
    I gave up reading his books as it was clear he was just cherry picking the worst excesses of the bible and religious history - hardly very scientific - but showing a fairly implacable hatred of the the church and religion.
    It's been my experience that those who choose to reject religion can do so only with partial arguments - and with no great integrity.
    Anyone who know a bit about science too, knows that it too is replete with its own myths.
    Theses are accepted as explaining the facts that we have at the moment, till such time as its impossible to continue with the thesis in vogue, while facts pile up against it: then its quietly shelved - often the change is slow and painful ... with many hankering for the old idea/ways!

Bookmark and Share

More from this section

  1. The poet who saved a saint's priceless letters

    The extraordinary life of South African poet Roy Campbell (pictured), who hid St John of the Cross’s letters from Spanish militiamen. By Joseph Pearce in the Catholic Herald.

  2. You will abide in my love

    John 15:9-17

    Jesus said to his disciples: ‘As the Father has loved me, so I have loved you; abide in my love. 10If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love. 11

  3. Irish assembly reflects on future of church

    An assembly of the entire church in Ireland took one step closer this week with an overflow meeting that saw more than 1,000 priests, religious and laypeople gather to discuss the future of the church, reports NCR Online.

  4. Australian Personal Ordinariate to start next month

    The Australian Personal Ordinariate is to start next month, a surprise award for a NSW country teacher and hundreds gather for a Marian procession in Canberra (pictured).

  5. Peruvian desecration, new Swiss Guard intake

    Indonesian officials close three churches, Catholic summer courses to be offered at Oxford, religious statues decaptitated in Peru and the Vatican welcomes a new intake of Swiss Guards (pictured).

Church Resources provides a range of services for the Church and not-for-profit sector, including aggregating buying power for a wide range of products and services used by health, welfare, aged care, education and parish organisations. More »

Mass streamed live daily

From Our Lady of the Rosary Cathedral, Waitara, in the Broken Bay Diocese.
Weekdays live at 9.30am
Saturdays live 9.30am (followed by Adoration and Benediction)
Sundays live 9.30am
Click on this link at the appropriate time to connect.

Subscribe

To receive headlines from our faith-based news services, please subscribe below.

Email address

Newsletter


 

News Feed

Subscribe to the CathNews RSS feed to get the daily edition automatically delivered to you.
Subscribe to Faith Project RSS.