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Priests and the life of celibacy

Published: November 30, 2012

A few years ago Desmond Zwar began researching a book into how priests dealt with the requirement that they be celibate. Hep laced an advertisement in The Swag - the journal of the National Council of Priests - seeking priests who would be willing to talk to me about their relationship with celibacy, whether they found it easy or difficult to maintain. About eight priests responded. He interviewed them by phone, taped the conversations and returned the edited version to each priest for review. This is an edited extract of his conversations with four of them, in The Age.

MARTIN*

''We talked a lot about celibacy in the seminary. For me it means regular self-appraisal, and a bit of doubt as well. It was easier for me as I had 15 years teaching in the secondary system. As a single fellow, when you are teaching secondary students, you are teaching girls as well who are in many ways at their physical peak.

And I had to think to myself: 'Well, how do I relate to these girls?' I had to acknowledge to myself that they were attractive to me; I'd be a fool if I didn't think that.

But that doesn't mean taking the further step of trying to get a physical relationship.''

How did you suppress your sexual feelings?

''I think they are natural. If I tried to suppress them I'd be storing up trouble for myself in the future. So I acknowledge to myself: 'Yes, that is a beautiful girl'. The thing that stood by me was: 'God created it, but you are not allowed to play with it!'

It's a gift from God - this beautiful person - and I find that gift precious.

We discussed celibacy a lot in the seminary. We looked at it not as a giving up, but a giving for. Being celibate means you are always able to be open to one more relationship. If you are in a relationship with another person, to a degree that has to be exclusive; other people have to be kept out.

Being celibate means there is always another friend you can make. When I entered the seminary there wasn't a lot explained about celibacy, and I wasn't sure whether to raise the question. But in the first year we looked at the whole issue of sexuality. What is sexuality? What is your sexuality? What is healthy sexuality? Is it something to be suppressed?''

MARTIN (not his real name)

Have you had relationships with women?

''Yes, but they didn't become physical relationships. I felt that if I got married it would be a matter of respect to that person I married, that we explored sexuality together.

I'm 45 and I do have sexual longings. What do I do about it? I acknowledge them first of all. I don't pretend they're not there. I don't try and drive them away. I ask what my body is trying to tell me - my body is telling me I'm still a normal male. But there's a message from God as well. As a priest and a celibate some opportunities are cut off; but every path in life opens some road and closes others.

I don't have feelings of guilt about my sexual feelings. Sexuality is a gift from God; if we deny it we are denying something that God has given us. But to deny having them is to fool oneself, and that can be dangerous.

To be aware of these feelings doesn't mean to act on them. I would like celibacy to be an option. To be celibate is to be potentially available to all. It is a sign that we do not have to be obsessed with sex or sexual activity.

But to expect it of everybody - especially those who do not have the gift - is quite unfair.''

XAVIER

How much self-doubt have you had - or still have - regarding celibacy?

''Leading up to ordination I had no self-doubt. I undertook wanting to be a priest and being a member of a religious order; I accepted the fact that celibacy was a part and parcel of that. I did that - not without question - but with full acceptance. I was 26.

Two or three years after ordination I started to seriously question whether this would really be possible as a lifetime commitment.''

FULL STORY Priests, sex and celibacy (Age)

 

 

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Recent Comments

  1. I wish I could understand why the church thinks celibacy is going to make our Priests and Bishops better at what they do. But I just can't. I realise there is more time to devote to prayer and parish, but the negative outweighs the positives by far.
    All the evidence before us shows that it is not working. And while there is only a small percentage guilty of pedophilia, there are many others who have not been able to remain celibate. I believe Jesus picked married apostles because that was the natural thing to do. God made us needing and being fulfilled by taking a partner for life.
    I believe the Catholic Church would not be as much trouble today if more priests were married.

  2. No surprises there

  3. Cate: I don't believe celibacy is the reason for pedophilia, it may well be that some pedophiles are attracted to the priesthood because they are pedophiles and unable to form normal adult relationships.
    I believe we need to ascertain the root cause of pedophilia to get at the heart of this issue which has caused so much tragedy and pain as well as upheaval in good organizations and institutions; as well within the family circle. I do believe that the Church should not only seriously consider married clergy but women priests; as well as making celibacy a matter of choice.
    I cannot help feeling that things would not have arrived at the sorry state we are in had that been the case. I also salute the vast majority of good hard working devoted priests and religious who have devoted their lives to serving God and their fellow man.

  4. How wonderful that the whole issue of celibacy can be discussed; the problems acknowledged and the blessings treasured.
    Further acknowledgement of optional celibacy must be seen as useful for many, and yes - the apostles were married men.



    Mary Maraz

  5. Cate: We need to remember that paedophilia (English spelling) is a mental illness you can find reference to it in the DSM5 (diagnostical statistical manual for psychological disorders).
    Celibacy has nothing to do with this condition; an employee within the AFP recently informed me that, statistically, it is step-fathers who are the greatest offenders.
    One must also remember that paedophiles are also organised and seek out children often infiltrating an organisation/community/family to get access. Once an organisation is infiltrated you begin to see massive damage years later which is what we are currently seeing with the Church.

  6. Oh yes, Mary Maraz, it's true that 'the whole issue of celibacy can be discussed'. We can say what we think, but do you think the decision-makers (on Earth) are listening?

  7. To be a Catholic priest he must observe celibacy.
    We treat them as the representatives of Jesus. And he never married.
    Those who want to marry can very well get themselves defrocked and lead a family life with out claiming the priesthood which is pristine and pure

  8. Adam and Maree: I didn't say celebacy caused paedophilia. But I do think it is a problem because there are so many frustrated men together.
    Also if paedophilia is a mental illness, then the Catholic Church must have more mentally ill men than any other group in society and I find this difficult to believe.

  9. I really feel that Joy Martin might like to read Priests in Love by Jane Anderson. It is based on the responses by about 50 priests who had been asked for their feelings about a selection of questions relating to their priesthood. It is very moving and insightful
    I too have much respect and admiration for many priests and can only really guess the depth of the sadness and suffering of the many who've been so affected by the appalling behaviour of others.

  10. Well our priests are not Martians, they are Earthlings like the rest of us; nothing new.
    The circular arguments to uphold mandatory celibacy will just bring about history repeating itself; and we don't want that.
    Laity, religious and priests who desire a change within the Roman Rite in line with Eastern Catholic and Orthodox churches on the reasonable vocation of married priests should promote an amendment to a rule that can be altered.

  11. Joy Martin: The fact is the Catholic Church has always had married priests. Are they less representatives of Jesus? Are they less pure? Are you sure all celibate priests are pristine and pure?
    Jesus was a wandering rabbi. Does that mean our priests should be wanderers in order to represent Jesus?

  12. If the priesthood is about serving an institutional Church and representing Christ to it then the argument for maintaining celibacy is null. The institution as end to itself can hapily accommodate married secular clergy.
    But if the priesthood is about an identity which points beyond itself to the Kingdom of God, and the very radical new order which erupts into the mundane by such a revelation, then celibacy cannot be easily dismissed.
    It all depends on what is truly being proclaimed, and answering this question takes honesty. We can suspect that the Church at the current time has become end in itself, making celibacy redundant.
    A failure in its mission?
    But maybe the immediate issue is not so much celibacy but emotional barreness from a lack of friendship.Loneliness, emotional isolation, belonging. Celibacy is not the ready fix to that.
    So many in religious houses and in seminaries confuse (afraid of?) actual friendships, most benignly viewing them as disruptive to community, but more usually conflating with sexual intimacy.
    It seems that we are unable to maturely separate emotional intimacy from sex, as if sexual intimacy (or recreation) is the sole expression of intimacy -- whether if for or against celibacy.
    It's well past time that we think beyond one expression of emotional intimacy, otherwise all we do is conform to the emptiness of a sexualised culture and the loneliness it engenders.

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