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NY Cardinal slams Giulani over communion with pope

Published: April 30, 2008

New York Cardinal Edward Egan says that former city mayor and presidential candidate Rudolph Giulani should not have received communion during a mass with Pope Benedict because of his open support for abortion rights.

The International Herald Tribune quotes Cardinal Egan as saying he had "an understanding" with Giuliani that he is not to receive the Eucharist.

He said Giuliani broke that understanding when he received the Eucharist during Pope Benedict's visit earlier this month. He received Communion during the April 19 service from one of the many clergymen who offered the sacrament.

Egan says he will be seeking a meeting with Giuliani "to insist that he abide by our understanding."

Giuliani's spokeswoman, Sunny Mindel, said he is willing to meet with the cardinal but added that his faith "is a deeply personal matter and should remain confidential."

Egan's statement does not address the fact that Giuliani is on his third marriage. Catholics who divorce and remarry without getting an annulment from the church cannot receive Communion.

A spokesman for Egan said the cardinal referred to the abortion issue rather than to Giuliani's marital history because the agreement that Giuliani would not receive Communion pre-dated his divorce from his second wife, Donna Hanover.

Giuliani's first marriage was annulled based on the fact that he and his wife were second cousins once removed.

Communion and abortion rights became a storyline in 2004, when Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, a Catholic, came under scrutiny for supporting abortion rights in conflict with Church teaching, the Herald Tribune says.

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NY cardinal criticizes Giuliani for taking Communion (International Herald Tribune, 29/4/08)

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Recent Comments

  1. "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone." How did Eagan address pedophilia within the Church?

  2. The Church's teachings on not receiving Holy Communion should apply equally whether one is employed as a street sweeper or as Mayor of NYC. No one is entitled to special privileges.
    Theological confusion and lack of formation is a big part of the problem.
    Stiff neckedness and obstinancy against Christ in this matter is I contend part of the un-Catholic elements within catechesis over the past two generations.
    Many bishops and clergy will remain silent about these words as they probably agree that unworthy reception is somehow OK and no longer unworthy on specious 'conscience' grounds.
    This problem is the responsibility of both individual Catholics and also the bishops. The main responsibility though lies with the bishops. I do not think that this situation will improve in my lifetime.
    Scandal and disorder in the area of sacraments is a core responsibility of the Episcopate. They need to act as one mind on this and many other issues. Devolving the issue to 'local churches' is a misapplication of Vatican II to put it mildly.

  3. I do not want to sound as if I am throwing stones at glass houses, but I routinely witness Anglicans who belong to the choir in which I sing, receiving Holy Communion with me on Sunday. It has been pointed out to me that this is none of my business and that I should say nothing about this practice, despite the fact I know that it is wrong.
    I would be genuinely interested in hearing from a priest who could assist me in dealing with a very difficult situation.

  4. Brent, unless you have a priest who is happy with the Church's teaching on everything, you might just get that look of a shot rabbit from many clergy who are probably feeling very Anglican within themselves in terms of what they now believe.
    After all, many of our Catholic Masses sound, look and feel quite Anglican. If it quacks like a duck.....
    Good luck Brent !

  5. You miss the point, Lybasha. Materially facilitating abortion/s (including actively politically lobbying for and enacting the removal of legal restictions on abortion) incurs latae sententiae (automatic) excommunication. Clearly this applies to Giuliani. Not to mention the fact that he is apparently committing adultery on an ongoing basis.

    Regardless of anything Cd Egan may or may not have done re addressing pedophilia or any other issue, there is no suggestion that he is in a state of mortal sin.

    Brent Egan, whoever told you it's none of your business is wrong. You ARE your brother's keeper. You should bring the problem to the attention of the parish priest and to the Anglican choristers (who may otherwise be unaware that they are doing anything wrong).

  6. Brent from your previous rantings on this site, I'd say that this question is the least of your problems. Let any one with a Love of God and seeking a pure heart receive the Body of Christ at Communion. I personally gave it to a devout Muslim man who approached me when I was ministering at my father-in-law's funeral some years ago. It gave me great satisfaction.

  7. It is sickening that it gave Mr Davis "great satisfaction" to give Holy Communion to a man who did not discern that it is Christ's own real Body and Blood, and so brought damnation upon himself. (1 Corinthians 11:29)
    To knowingly cause your fellow man's spiritual death, is not "love", but hate.

  8. I accept that to some people my "rantings" may be irritating. However, it was a genuine question which I asked and I certainly hope that Tony Davis is not a Catholic priest, if, as he says, it gave him great satisfaction to distribute Holy Communion to a Moslem.

  9. To: 'it gave me great satisfaction' Tony Davis;

    You may think you know better and that it is your prerogative to give Communion to a non-believer but you'd be wrong. I certainly wouldn't boast about what you've done.

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